# Emissions and Meteorological Input Differences between CMAQv5.3 and CMAQv5.2.1

**URL:** <https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948>\
**Category:** CMAQ\
**Created:** [September 16, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948 "2019-09-16T22:50:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/1 "2019-09-16T22:50:06Z")

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I have been customizing the CMAQ v5.3 run script to run for SOAS 2013 case and i see there are some differences in emissions (more Sector-wise classifications in v5.3 compared to v5.2.1. inputs we have) and meteorological inputs, since we are using the v5.2.1 inputs from the SOAS 2013 Google drive.  
Just wanted to double check that we are not missing anything by trying to run CMAQ v5.3 with these SOAS 2013 inputs configured with v5.2.1.  
Is there SOAS 2013 Input data available configured for CMAQ v5.3 run?  
I have condensed the differences i noticed with questions into this table where highlighted inputs are those that v5.3 has that v.5.2.1 does not:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/uploads/cmas/original/1X/2c6e0bde6610b27d410d2866dd024dcaaf278b8c.png)

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**Author:** ![lizadams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@lizadams](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/lizadams)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/2 "2019-09-19T13:54:01Z")

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Hi Quazi,

Thank you for your questions regarding the differences between CMAQv5.3 and CMAQv5.2.1.

The answer is yes for all of them, except for the question about whether the LUFRAC\_CRO variable exists in the v5.2.1 inputs. That variable is not available with the CMAQv5.2.1 release.

The LUFRAC\_CRO variable is a new variable with the new MCIPv5.0 release, which is distributed as part of the CMAQv5.3 release.

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/3 "2019-09-20T21:14:01Z")

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I did tried to run v5.3 with v5.2 SOAS 2013 inputs, i am getting stuck at this point:

\*\*\* ERROR ABORT in subroutine depv\_data\_setup on PE 615  
Could not read “L1\_SW” from file “E2C\_CHEM”  
PM3EXIT: date&time specified as 0  
Date&time specified as 0

I think this has to do with newer FEST-C v1.4 having Soil moisture inputs (L1\_SW and L2\_SW) , which is not there in older FEST-C v1.1 or 1.2 which was used in v5.2 SOAS 2013 inputs, what can i substitute for that in centralized\_io\_module.F (From where CCTM is calling all the EPIC/FEST-C variables). Also, FEST-C L1\_SW and L2\_SW is in mm where as , SOIM1 and SOIM2 in METCRO2D are in m3/m3

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/4 "2019-09-27T00:15:35Z")

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I tried to re-run for SOAS 2013 v5.2 inputs with CMAQ v5.3 , by switching OFF (N) the CTM\_ABFLUX (bi-directional EPIC NH3) option as it was causing issues (as stated in my previous Post in this thread), but still i see it is able to run only till 5 minutes time step & i don’t see any specific issues with any inputs. Any idea why it is so (I am attaching the CTM\_LOG file)[CTM\_LOG\_615\_record.v53\_intel17.2\_soas\_2016\_cb6\_20130521.txt](https://forum.cmascenter.org/uploads/short-url/jACtnpw2BIbOGT3C5I8xmYfcX9j.txt) (135.3 KB) ?

tail CTM\_LOG\_615.v53\_intel17.2\_soas\_2016\_cb6\_20130521

```
        Processing completed... 2.9 seconds

 Processing Day/Time [YYYYDDD:HHMMSS]: 2013141:000500

   Which is Equivalent to (UTC): 0:05:00 Tuesday, May 21, 2013

   Time-Step Length (HHMMSS): 000500

      Temporal BEIS at time 0:07:30

 After VDIFF : Gas 2.231E-01 | Aer 3.634E+09 | Non 1.735E-06

 After COUPLE : Gas 2.109E+03 | Aer 6.230E+13 | Non 1.621E-02
```

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**Author:** ![cgnolte](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.cmascenter.org/cgnolte/32/53_2.png) [@cgnolte](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/cgnolte)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/5 "2019-09-27T13:52:28Z")

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Quazi, there is no error in the log file you uploaded (for processor 615). Is there anything in any of the other log files (try grepping for ABORT) or the overall log file? If none of those have any information then I’d try recompiling in debug mode (your problem occurs almost instantly, so performance is not an issue), and then if that doesn’t illuminate things, then try running under a debugger.

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/6 "2019-09-27T14:27:15Z")

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I didn’t find any ABORT step in the overall log file (i have attached it as well). I thought i did compiled my CCTM executable with DEBUG mode as TRUE (Makefile is attached, correct me if i am wrong and need to add anything for compiling CCTM with debug mode ON?).  
I was able to run the Benchmark case successfully before so not been able to pin point what’s causing this termination.[Makefile.txt](https://forum.cmascenter.org/uploads/short-url/6yuFHtottiYRt99z2nvvLk5KLOT.txt) (29.4 KB) [Makefile.txt](https://forum.cmascenter.org/uploads/short-url/6yuFHtottiYRt99z2nvvLk5KLOT.txt) (29.4 KB) [Makefile.txt](https://forum.cmascenter.org/uploads/short-url/6yuFHtottiYRt99z2nvvLk5KLOT.txt) (29.4 KB) [slurm\_soas2013\_ros315isop\_log.txt](https://forum.cmascenter.org/uploads/short-url/1olRAFgqOHkmFfsvzCW3npacnOi.txt) (320.8 KB)

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**Author:** ![cgnolte](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.cmascenter.org/cgnolte/32/53_2.png) [@cgnolte](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/cgnolte)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/7 "2019-09-27T14:47:46Z")

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From your slurm log file, you have a lot of processes (616) running on what looks to me like 14 nodes. How many processors per node are there on your system? Also, there are lots of warnings about stack size unlimited causing performance problems. Maybe try increasing the number of nodes and/or decreasing the number of processes.

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/8 "2019-09-27T14:49:51Z")

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I am using 44 procs-per-node with 14 nodes, will try that.  
I am also re-compiling by setting the Debug\_CCTM option in bldit\_cctm.csh (which i think was commented earlier)

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/9 "2019-09-27T18:46:10Z")

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After running on DEBUG mode, i get this ABORT message and the terminates right at the start:

==================================  
|\>— CONFIGURE SCENARIO —\<|  
==================================

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 *** ERROR ABORT in subroutine SA_IOLIST on PE 615
 Error Opening SA_IO_LIST file

```

PM3EXIT: date&time specified as 0  
Date&time specified as 0

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**Author:** ![lizadams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@lizadams](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/lizadams)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/10 "2019-10-04T15:00:19Z")

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Have you tried running again using the optimized compiled version? I have had trouble running in debug mode on dogwood.

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/12 "2019-10-05T14:25:49Z")

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**Sorry i misunderstood your question earlier, I did try running with executable compiled with DEBUG=TRUE(optimized flag) on Dogwood, that is what you were asking right?**  
_I also am not able to run it, i get the following error message in the slurm.out file (also lot of core. files as well, CTM\_LOG files are not created):_\*  
**Primary job terminated normally, but 1 process returned**  
**a non-zero exit code. Per user-direction, the job has been aborted.**  
**--------------------------------------------------------------------------**  
**--------------------------------------------------------------------------**  
**mpirun noticed that process rank 60 with PID 28213 on node c-208-24 exited on signal 8 (Floating point exception).**

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**Author:** ![zia.qazi41](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/65b543/32.png) [@zia.qazi41](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/zia.qazi41)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/13 "2019-10-06T21:40:26Z")

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And the same script runs successfully with CCTM executable created without DEBUG flags compilation

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**Author:** ![skunwar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@skunwar](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/skunwar)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/emissions-and-meteorological-input-differences-between-cmaqv5-3-and-cmaqv5-2-1/948/14 "2020-12-02T16:54:35Z")

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Hi @lizadams, I was wondering how one can run the ‘optimized compiled version’ of CMAQv5.3.2 if the debug mode does not run?
