# General question about stack\_groups and inline files

**URL:** https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283
**Category:** SMOKE
**Created:** [February 6, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283 "2020-02-06T18:07:03Z")
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### Author: ![Soroush](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@Soroush](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/Soroush)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283/1 "2020-02-06T18:07:03Z")

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Hi all!

I have a question about SMOKE outputs for point sources.  
I know that there are two different outputs for point sources in SMOKE; stack\_groups and inline files. I’m a bit confused since I’m not sure about the difference between these two kinds of outputs. The locations and details about the stacks (such as stack height, diameter, emission rate, and …) are stored in stack\_groups files. So do inline outputs only include plume rise?

By the way, if it’s correct, is this why there is only one stack\_groups for point sources but one per day stack\_groups for fire sectors (each fire event is considered a stack)?

Thank you,  
Soroush

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### Author: ![eyth.alison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@eyth.alison](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/eyth.alison)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283/2 "2020-02-10T13:43:00Z")

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HI Soroush,

Stack\_groups files include information on individual stacks – locations and stack parameters – but not emissions information. The inline files include the hourly emissions for  
the same sources. The inline files don’t have any specific information about plume rise; they just contain hourly emissions by source. CMAQ uses the stack information from stack\_groups + the hourly emissions from the inline files to calculate plume rise.

Non-fire point sectors have a single stack\_groups file for the year because each day of the year has emissions from the same group of sources (i.e. the entire inventory). Fire  
sectors have day-specific stack\_groups files because SMOKE only outputs emissions for fires that are active on any particular day. In other words, each day of the year has a different list of sources for fire sectors (only those fires which are active on that  
day), whereas for a non-fire sector, each day of the year has the same list of sources.

We hope that helps…

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### Author: ![bbaek](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/forum.cmascenter.org/bbaek/32/22_2.png) [@bbaek](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/bbaek)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283/3 "2020-02-10T14:22:07Z")

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Along with @eyth.alison information, those list of point sources in stack groups and inline emissions files are considered as elevated point sources that potentially emit emissions into above the surface layer and transport a longer distance in downwind. Not all point sources are considered as elevated but selected by Elevpoint program in SMOKE based on the user’s input.

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### Author: ![Soroush](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@Soroush](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/Soroush)
#### Post date: [February 10, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283/4 "2020-02-10T15:33:14Z")

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Hi @eyth.alison @bbaek,  
Thank you very much for the helpful information.

Best,  
Soroush

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### Author: ![eyth.alison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@eyth.alison](https://forum.cmascenter.org/u/eyth.alison)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.cmascenter.org/t/general-question-about-stack-groups-and-inline-files/1283/6 "2021-09-23T19:49:51Z")

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When we run CMAQ, we use scripts that use the representative dates files - the same representative date files that we use in SMOKE.

These representative date files are included in most packages in the “SMOKE core” package, and are usually exported to the smoke[version]/scripts/smk\_dates/[year]/ directory.

So you can send CMAQ inln files with different dates to account for the representative dates that occur in some sectors…
